This episode investigates Bob Lazar's 1989 claim that he worked at a facility called S4 near Area 51, reverse-engineering recovered alien spacecraft powered by "Element 115"—a substance he described years before moscovium (element 115) was synthesized and added to the periodic table in 2016. Ancient alien theorists, including filmmaker Jeremy Corbell, argue this timing validates Lazar's account and suggests the U.S. military possesses extraterrestrial technology capable of manipulating gravity and spacetime. The episode connects Lazar's claims to declassified documents, including a 1950 FBI memo mentioning multiple flying saucer recoveries, and explores whether crashed craft from incidents like the 1947 Roswell event could contain physics-defying propulsion systems waiting for human science to catch up.
Mainstream physics notes that while moscovium does exist, laboratory-created atoms decay in milliseconds—far from the stable fuel source Lazar described. Scientists point out that Lazar's educational credentials remain unverified, and the CIA's 2013 acknowledgment of Area 51's existence confirmed it as a testing site for classified aircraft like the U-2 spy plane, not alien technology. No physical evidence of extraterrestrial craft has been produced for independent study. Still, the episode raises genuinely intriguing questions about why Lazar named a then-undiscovered element and whether compartmentalized military projects could conceal breakthrough technologies, even if terrestrial in origin, making it compelling viewing for anyone interested in the boundaries between classified innovation and fringe speculation.
Area 51
United States · Modern
Reverse-engineered alien technology stored and studied at the facility
Flerov Laboratory of Nuclear Reactions, Dubna
Russia · Modern
Theorists highlight the December 2018 activation of the Flerov Laboratory's DC-280 cyclotron—the world's most powerful heavy-ion accelerator—as evidence that international physicists are racing to stabilize Element 115 for use as a fuel source, echoing what they believe was already achieved in recovered alien craft. Mainstream nuclear physicists frame the work as fundamental research into superheavy element stability with no near-term energy application.
Laingsburg, Michigan (United Nuclear / Bob Lazar business)
United States · Modern
Theorists suggest that the FBI's multi-agency raid on Bob Lazar's business, United Nuclear, in Laingsburg the day after he was asked on camera whether he possessed a piece of Element 115, was a deliberate government operation to recover or suppress physical evidence of extraterrestrial fuel technology. The FBI stated the raid concerned paperwork related to a customer who ordered potentially toxic material.
Los Alamos National Laboratory
United States · Modern
Theorists point to Bob Lazar's employment history at Los Alamos as evidence that the U.S. government recruited him specifically because of his particle physics expertise to work on alien propulsion technology, and allege a piece of Element 115 may have been stored or accessed there. Mainstream accounts note Los Alamos is a federally funded nuclear research laboratory with no confirmed connection to extraterrestrial materials.
USS Nimitz UFO encounter site, off Southern California coast
United States · Modern
Theorists contend that the craft filmed in the GIMBAL video during the 2004 USS Nimitz encounter displayed propulsion characteristics—cold thermal halos, instantaneous altitude changes, absence of conventional aerodynamic surfaces—consistent with an Alcubierre warp bubble and matching Bob Lazar's descriptions of a craft powered by Element 115. Military analysts and mainstream scientists have not identified the object but note the footage has not been conclusively explained.